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Consider this. We already know that there are many books in heaven. But I wanted to address the idea that the Book of Life and the Lambs Book of Life are two different, distinct books.

Lamb's book of life
Revelation 13:8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
Revelation 21:27 And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.

Book of life
Revelation 20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
Revelation 22:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

And this would stand to reason with the teaching that there will be two judgements. One being the "Great White Throne" where the lost will be judged and the "Bema Seat of Christ" where the saved will be judged.

Great White Throne
Matthew 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
Revelation 20:11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.

Bema Seat of Christ
1st Corinthians 3:12 Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble; 3:13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is. 3:14 If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward. 3:15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.

So what do you think?

I don't rally see the difference. The term book of life seems to refer to the location where those who are saved names are recorded in each instance you have given. The difficult part of this discussion is that we have to take a hard look at Rev 22:19 and see what that really means when it says that he will take out their part.

I personally believe, and I know this will seem hokey, that our part is the righteousness that is accounted to us. That is the silver and gold and anything else that would not be burned up. The part in the holy city is a dwelling place in New Jerusalem and the "things written in this book" would be the promises afforded to those who keep his word.

I do not believe there to be two seperate books, but would be very interested in hearing more about your take on this.

I guess the first thing that stands out to me is that the scripture seem to make a differentiation. If they were one and the same, why would John not just have reffered to them all as the Book of Life or The Lambs Book of Life?

Secondly, it stands to reason that there must be a book of Life for names to blotted out of if they don't accept the free gift of salvation. So then in my thinking the Lambs Book of Life must be the one our name is written in once we are saved. Hence "books (plural)" were opened. The saved would appear in both where the lost wouldn't appear in either. Revelation 20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

I just finished studying a book called "The Footsteps of the Messiah" which is a study of End Times. According to the author The Book of Life has a list of everyone that has ever lived. When someone doesn't accept Christ their name is blotted out of the Book of Life. The Lambs book of life is the list of everyone that has accepted Christ.

That's my belief too Cloud but I really am wanting to make sure it is Bible buddy.

Ah, that makes great sense to me.

Let me see if I can put this in a nutshell.

In John 3:16-18, we have the whole world in view for which God gave His one and only Son that during one’s physical lifetime one has an opportunity to believe & be saved unto eternal life at anytime - God not willing that any should perish. All men are under condemnation, verse 18 says, until they believe. So initially all entrants in the Book of Life are unsaved. So all have to be written in the Evolving Book of Life before conception in order to have this opportunity; and no one can be blotted out until after physical death.

In John 3:16-18 you have the entire world that God gave His only begotten Son for. And during everyone’s mortal life they have the opportunity to believe and be saved because God isn't willing that any should perish. right?

John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

All men are under condemnation according to verse 18, until they believe. So initially all entries in the Book of Life are unsaved. Therefore, everybody has to be written in the continually changing "Book of Life" before or at the time they are born in order to have this opportunity. I might also think that no one would be blotted out until after they actually die or until the Lord just has had enough with their blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. I would more think it would be at the time of death because God is so longsuffering towards us. 2nd Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

In Psalms 69:19-28 David says basically that all men are initially written in the Book of Life when he asks God to blot his enemies out. David says there are some in the Book of Life that are not saved and that blotting out their names would mean that they wouldn't go to heaven. Not only that but in the last verse, you'd would miss it if you didn't look at the structure of David's sentence in verse 28. I believe he is speaking of two distinct books here. Ya think that is a far stretch?

Psalms 69:19 Thou hast known my reproach, and my shame, and my dishonour: mine adversaries are all before thee. 69:20 Reproach hath broken my heart; and I am full of heaviness: and I looked for some to take pity, but there was none; and for comforters, but I found none. 69:21 They gave me also gall for my meat; and in my thirst they gave me vinegar to drink. 69:22 Let their table become a snare before them: and that which should have been for their welfare, let it become a trap. 69:23 Let their eyes be darkened, that they see not; and make their loins continually to shake. 69:24 Pour out thine indignation upon them, and let thy wrathful anger take hold of them. 69:25 Let their habitation be desolate; and let none dwell in their tents. 69:26 For they persecute him whom thou hast smitten; and they talk to the grief of those whom thou hast wounded. 69:27 Add iniquity unto their iniquity: and let them not come into thy righteousness. 69:28 Let them be blotted out of the book of the living, and not be written with the righteous.

that is good, I don't think that to be a stretch at all. Bravo, I am convinced.

I am not sure I would teach myself, cause I can see getting it confused and causing people some issues, but that straightens that out way better than my previous explanation of what Rev 22 is talking about.

Hello friends

In 2004 my sister died of cancer. She had believed on the Lord Jesus Christ in the last few months of her earthly life.
After her death my mom had a vivid dream in which she had a long conversation
with my sister. In the dream my mother asked my sister how she was.
My sister replied " I am in the book". In relating this dream my mom
was confused as to what my sister's answer signified.

my mom is saved but she does not know the scriptures all that well.
we gave her the answers as best we could and she was greatly comforted
as we were also.

I, too, believe that the Book of Life is the list of all people, and those who do not receive the Lord Jesus as Savior, according to John 3:15-18 will have their names blotted out. I also believe that the Book of Life is the book of names of those who have received
Jesus the Lord as Savior.

I'd like to share a story that doesn't exactly relate, but I'd like to think that it can. I had a dear friend die recenly. She had suffered long with many ailments, including heart problems, diabetes, and a host of others. She had been released from the hospital on the 2nd of July to go to her small apartment. On July 4 she fell and cut her arm open, cutting an artery and bled to death.

Our Minister of Education did her funeral, because our pastor was away. He shared this illustration: There was a young man who grew up loving NASCAR racing. When he grew up he decided to go international with his own car and recing team. For several races the car won, and beautifully. Then one day there was a bad crash. The team knew they needed to call the owner and tell him about the situation. The owner asked them, "Well, what condition is the motor in?" When the team assured him that the motor was in pretty good shape, he said, "Pack it up and send it to me. I'll put it in a new body." This was a freak accident. It's OK.They did send him the motor and he did indeed put it in another car body.

On July 4, my friend had a freak accident. God looked down and said "Her soul is in good shape. Angels, go down and bring her home and I'll put her in a new body."

Now, I do believe that there are probably a lot of books in Heaven, but I believe that God knows exactly who has accepted Him and who hasn't, and our name is recorded.

You know that story (and it isn't a parable, believe me), in Luke 15 about Laxarus and the rich man. Lazarus died and was carried by the angels into "Abraham's bosom", the Jewish idea of Heaven. But what does it say about the rich man? He died and was buried..and in hell lifted up his eyes in torment.

So, the choice is ours. We can either receive Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior, or not, but the consequences are in the books!