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I don't know much about this at all.
I was talking with an on-line friend about the once and for all Blood sacrifice paid by Lord Jesus on the cross. I mentioned the ancient Hebrew's Day of Atonement, where animals were sacrificed for covering of sin for a year.
Well, a Jewish friend on the forum let me know right away that the ancient Hebrews NEVER sacrificed animals to cover sin.
This was pretty shocking, since I'm pretty sure I have read that in the Bible. I didn't argue with her, because I don't do that. I think I might have said..."no kidding? Wow. That's news to me." and gave her a smiley.
Not to let it rest, I found a Jewish yahoo group and joined. It turned out to be a "counter missionary" group. These people discuss ways to counter Christians who try to convert Jews, and while some of them are very nice, there are a few who really don't like Christians.

Anyway, I asked my question over there. The owner of the group, who goes by the name "Zvi the fiddler", told me that my other friend was correct. The ancient Hebrews did not sacrifice animals for sin covering.
Now I'm really confused. But these folks are constantly refering to writings called the Talmud. As I understand it, these are commentaries written by learned Rabbis, written in the dark ages and even before that.
I'm wondering, do they believe the Talmud has more authority than the Torah, the first 5 books of the Bible?
Zvi the fiddler actually told me that the King James verson of the first 5 books is the closest translation to the Hebrew.
Why would these religious Jews take the word of men over the inspired word of God? I mean, I love C.S. Lewis, and other Christian theologians. But the Word trumps all, as far as I am concerned.

I still visit the counter missionary site from time to time, to catch up with what's going on. Their spiritual eyes are veiled, so I see no point in arguing with them. When the Lord gives me the go ahead, He will give me the words to say, hopefully. I ran across a verse a few months ago, and I can't remember where I saw it. I have been too lazy to look it up. Now that I've written this post, I will have to.
It said that the time will come when the Lord Jesus will return the power he has been given back to the Father. This blew my mind, and opened up another avenue of thought. I had never seen this verse before.
Still, the Jews are veiled, and they can't see that Jesus has any power in the first place.
I'm still confused about this Talmud, and why the Jews give it so much credit for being Truth.

Paul wrote this to the Corinthians. It may explain why even today, even professing Christians, refuse to let go of the Old Covenant of works and be bound by faith to the New Covenant.

"....And not as Moses, [which] put a vail over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished: But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which [vail] is done away in Christ. "

Shalom mableloretta
The anti-missionarys cannot edify me in the least.
They are yet dead in their tresspasses by their own ommisions, denying the Torah by keeping their own traditions, they cause the nations to scoff and stumble at the loving instructions given to Moshe for all Israel.

Paul cannot be understood without loving Yahweh's instructions.
2 Peter 3:16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.

Yahshua rebuked the builders (teachers) of His time for forsakeing Moshe (the heavenly instructions) and teaching for doctrines Talmudic dogma.
Unrepentant Judah was guilty, is guilty. Unrepentant Ephraim (gentiles) was guilty, is guilty of forsakeing the loving instructions as well. Apostle paul said all Israel has been blinded in part.
See the two chosen families in Jer 33:24
Its time for Judaisim and Christianity to awake from disobediance!

It has to do with the sacrifice it's self mableloretta. The blood of animals could never cover the sin of the nation of Isreal, the sacrifice, preformed the way the Lord God Almighty prescribed it meerly pushed those sins forward as a foreshadoing of the blood that can pay for sins. The Blood of the Savior. 1st Peter 1:18 Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers; 1:19 But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot: 1:20 Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you, 1:21 Who by him do believe in God, that raised him up from the dead, and gave him glory; that your faith and hope might be in God. 1:22 Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethren,

As the scripture says, we were purchased by the price paid by the Lamb of God in the shedding of His Blood. That was the healing remedy for our sin. And only the Blood of the Messiah could do that.

Isaiah 53:4 Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted. 53:5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed. 53:6 All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the Lord hath laid on him the iniquity of us all. 53:7 He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth.

Thank you, Rabbi Thomas.
I have deep feelings for the Jews, and I find it incomprehensable they accept the teachings of their "wise men" over the actual word of God. I wonder, did they already consider the Torah an archaic relic when the Lord Jesus was reading from the scroll of Isaiah in the synagogue?
I know, I need to accept with faith that God Himself has placed the veil over their eyes, and let it go. And yet, I still struggle to understand...why can't they see??...when it's so clear to me.
And yet I know. It has to do with God the Holy Ghost indwelling us. He's the only reason we can see.

Yes, given, thank you.
There are the "law-bound" Christians. And then there are those Christians who don't believe half of the scriptures, old or new covenant. These people are self veiled (as I see it). There are all kinds of reasons for this, I guess, the main one being trusting their own human understanding, which might be the results of believing the original lie..."you are a god".

I believe this, thank you Pastor.
I have been taught that the sacrifice of bulls and sheep was just a covering, and could never pay the sin dept for ever. They had to do it every year. It was a shadow of the Lamb without blimish Who was to come.
I'm starting to understand the significance of the veil over their spiritual eyes, but are their physical eyes veiled as well? I mean, it's right there, in the Old Testament. An yet, these Jewish people I have talked with, deny that animal sacrifice was ever performed, for sin covering. The Torah must be mythology to them, and that's pretty sad.

I have a question but I am not looking for a discussion about it, just an answer.

The question:
What is an "anti-missionary" ?

given,
As I understand it, they are a group of people who teach other Jews how to respond to Christians trying to convert them to Christianity.

Of course, the general term, "anti-missionary", could refer to anyone who is against any kind of missionary work.

Thanks